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Atari VCS 2600 NTSC And PAL Games List - Discussion Thread
22 Nov 2008
23:32
Dieter
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If you have corrections or questions regarding our Atari VCS 2600 NTSC And PAL Games List please post here.

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23 Nov 2008
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oh, you opened Pandora's Box Wink

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23 Nov 2008
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LOL!

Don't rant, just help with the list Tongue out

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23 Nov 2008
09:27
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Bit Corp
Bomb
Funvision
Gakken
Goliath
Homevision
Hot Shot
Panda
Puzzy
Quelle
Rainbowvision

These companies are still a mystery for me. Are those all pirated games? Or are there original games too in this lot?

Regarding the Atari 2600 games list in general: It's hard to draw a line for this list. Maybe I should list ONLY PAL games, as this is the main purpose: finding out which games were released as PAL versions. I already did the Atari 5200 and 7800 lists, the Coleco and Intellivision lists – those are not too hard to compile because of the “limited” number of games for those systems, so I made complete lists (NTSC and PAL). I don't think that this makes sense for the 2600, as the number of games is simply too big.

Writing this, I really think that a PAL-only list would be the best solution for this system. Any thoughts?

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24 Nov 2008
11:11
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In the introduction you wrote: "I will not include all Atari 2600 games in this list. Main purpose is to list all unique games."

A couple of months ago I started searching an Atari list like this and couldn't find one. I was very surprised (and still can't belive) that nowone ever made a list of all the unique Atari games.

To have a list like that (which includes the NTSC-only-titles) would be more interesting for me than having a PAL-list.

24 Nov 2008
11:25
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Well, that's really a tough thing – even with listing "only" unique games. I browsed many Atari 2600 websites at the weekend and found a lot of things I didn't now.

The big problem are the pirate carts. Some games exist in several pirated versions where only a few things were changed from the original, like removed copyright notes or graphical changes in different grades. So I have again the problem in drawing the line. When I really list only unique games, I should probably NOT include those pirates, even if the are not 100 % identical, because they are still no unique games, but "altered". So I'd have to list only the "real" originals, right?

In a later step we could include the pirates too, with notes made to the original games which pirates "belong" to the original game.

Another thing: For example Sancho sold PAL versions of the NTSC games by Panda. Should only the Pande games be included in the list or the Sancho games too? In fact they are the same games, but there are two versions, NTSC and PAL …

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24 Nov 2008
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I think the easiest thing could be to start only with the companies we're sure that they produced unique games (f.e. Atari, Activison, Imagic, etc). And than have a look at the pirates in a second step.

If the same game was sold by two different companies, it should be in the list ones. Maybe with a note saying for excample: Released by Sancho (PAL) and Panda (NTSC).

24 Nov 2008
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Yes, I thought of that too already. Would be not too much work, because in fact I'd have only to remove some companies from the list that is online right now.

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29 Nov 2008
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Gakken is the european branch of the Konami games

there are no pirates

29 Nov 2008
10:57
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Thanks, I am still thinking how I can organize that for the best overview.

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29 Nov 2008
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well, there are websites with pretty good database

atariage for ntsc

atarimania

so there is no reason to be redundant

narrow it to "only" pal would be a good idea I think

29 Nov 2008
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Yes, PAL is the main focus on this site.

You are right that there are great databases out there, so no need to make another one. Most important thing is to find out what was released in PAL and what not.

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10 Dec 2008
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lucifershalo said:

Gakken is the european branch of the Konami games


hehe, when I think back how much my friend Markus and I laughed about the name Gakken back then…

Small story:
His father was (is) a truck driver for a big car carrier here in Upper Austria and he was in Germany quite often. Games from Parker Brothers weren't available from the beginning here in Austria and so my friend Markus asked him to bring Star Wars: Death Star Battle from his next trip. Seeing a Parker cardboard box was a magic moment to us and then the game – wow, Star Wars on the Telly!!! It was all so easy and simple back then Wink

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