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21 Nov. 2008
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pongman
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hello you thousands of pong collectors - this is YOUR forum!! we have to discuss about the myths of pong let´s start! errr.....

immer in bewegung bleiben!

21 Nov. 2008
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I'm here Adrian. You're not alone. Smile

21 Nov. 2008
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Hi,Pong fans!

Somebody of you ever visited the "pong.mythos" exhibition organised by Computerspielemuseum Berlin?I worked there for some months during the preparations for this project and got in contact with the curator Andreas Lange.His favourite game is still the Magnavox Odyssey version of Pong we played sometimes when he visited the large hardware store at the very east of Berlin where I was responsible for the inventory.

If so, please tell something about your impressions of this show.

Cheers,

Norman

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Gruß an Dieter und alle Retro-Fans!

21 Nov. 2008
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I haven't been to the show, but I know the catalog/book. I think it's a nice book, but there are some things I don't like about it.

First thing is (and that's not only a problem of this book) that it has only an american perspective on the history of pong: There are hardly any informations about the early german/european video game history in it and that would imo be nessacary for a german exhibition/book about pong/videogames. There are a lot of interesting questions which could be answered in a book about pong. For excample: When did the first arcade video games come to Europe? In which countries and when was the Odyssey released in Europe? How many units where sold? Why are cartridge based Pong systems mainly a PAL thing? Why were german TV manufactures so focused on building Pong games in their TV-sets? What about build-it-yourself instructions for Pong games published in magazines like Elektor? And so on.

Second thing is that if you write that Nolan Bushnell got the idea for the “Computer Space” arcade machine from “Galaxy Game” and you put a reference on this story it should be correct. I know you can find simular things in other books (for excample Claus Pias' writes in “Computer Spiel Welten” that Ralph Baer is a “former Tennis for Two-Player” without letting the reader know where he got his exclusive information from that Baer took part in Higinbothams' presentation in Brookhaven), but it always makes me wonder when authors try to construct the past and are not more carefully with references.

Can't say much about the art/pop/sience chapters. Anyway all in all the book is a nice read and anybody who is interested in Pong and the early video game history should give it a try.

21 Nov. 2008
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I also always thought that the history of PAL consoles was so much underrated on the internet. That's one of the reasons why I created this site. I really hope that this forums can bring a lot more light in the questions from your post Jens.

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24 Nov. 2008
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j_eits said:

I'm here Adrian. You're not alone. Smile


thank god jens - now we found each other and we are not alone with our 2500 pc-50x carts!

that´s a great feeling!!

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24 Nov. 2008
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Dieter said:

I also always thought that the history of PAL consoles was so much underrated on the internet. That's one of the reasons why I created this site. I really hope that this forums can bring a lot more light in the questions from your post Jens.


i fully agree to you dieter - the whole world collects atari and most of them still think that this was the first home video game system. your site is not one of the thousands of mainstream websites that only target on well known system and well known information - let us live up the true classics here ;-)

immer in bewegung bleiben!

24 Nov. 2008
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Sure we do!! mrgreen

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25 Nov. 2008
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glad to hear that - but what about that atari forum noone writes anything ;-)

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26 Nov. 2008
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Norman said:

got in contact with the curator Andreas Lange.His favourite game is still the Magnavox Odyssey version of Pong we played sometimes when he visited the large hardware store at the very east of Berlin where I was responsible for the inventory.



hehe so andreas lange maybe told you that he bought his first odyssey from me many years ago. he also bought an atari c-100 from me which is pictured in the book. and there are scans of jens he took for the book. sadly i have never been to the show. i find it a very cool project! too bad i missed it. pong collectors should be seen as art collectors ;-)

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26 Nov. 2008
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pongman said:

glad to hear that - but what about that atari forum noone writes anything ;-)


Comes time, come Atari collectors who will post there wink

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