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Models 1292 and 1392 - differences?
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Dieter
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27 Nov. 2008 - 08:23

I have a question. Most companies that released consoles for this system had two models in their program, named 1292 and 1392. Why? Was the 1392 technically different from the 1292, was it advanced?

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j_eits
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27 Nov. 2008 - 11:33

That's a good question and I don't know the answer. If you compare the two systems there is no visuable difference beside the design.

I've searched the web for informations and found some bits about the systems:

faq by Dale Hansen

old-computers

But both have no infos about your question.

Anyway, the interesting thing is that according to Dale Hansen the system was released in 1976? Two years before the Interton VC-4000 and also before the Atari VCS? I have no idea on what informations this is basing. The oldest copyright notes I've found so far for this systems are 1979.

I did have a quick look at my video-game related litrature and found articles about this systems only for the years 1981-1983 + a catalog which is also from 1979 and contains the first 14 games as released. (The ones which were available in “old” Radofin style boxes.)

Another mystery.

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Dieter
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27 Nov. 2008 - 11:49

I like such mysteries <img decoding="async" class="wp-smiley" src="/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt="smile" />

I searched old-computers before my previous post and couldn't find any info on the differences between those two models, so I though I ask you guys.

Hmm, 1976 and 1977 seems to be pretty early. Are there any copyright years etc. on the consoles themselves (I have stored mine away).

As to my knowledge there are no cartridges that run ONLY on the 1392 (like some Videopac games only run on the G7400), I don't think that the 1392 was technically advanced. But still it would be interesting to know why almost every company had those two models in their program. As the system lived pretty long - maybe the 1392 units have advanced electronics in them - not in the meaning of more powerful, but more “integrated”, which would have made it possible to produce them cheaper. But that is just another guess and I don't think it's the real reason …

Have 1292 and 1392 been released at the same time or have the 1392s been released some years after the 1292s?

Edit: Maybe we should discuss that in an own thread? Unfortunately the current version of the forum software does not allow splitting of threads yet ...

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27 Nov. 2008 - 12:29

Dieter said:

Have 1292 and 1392 been released at the same time or have the 1392s been released some years after the 1292s?


The “Expand your entertainment horizons!” catalog lists both models from Radofin. The catalog is from 1979. If the system is also from 1979 (and not from 1976) they would have started it with both version… (or would at least have had plans for the 1392-model)

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Dieter
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27 Nov. 2008 - 13:16

Hmm, that would make even less sense - why release two consoles with the same technical specs at the same time? Undecided

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pongman
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27 Nov. 2008 - 13:48

maybe these joysticks did not break that easy than for the 1292 ;-) i have seen more 1392 systems with intact joysticks...

but changing a complete system for just these breakable joysticks would be nonsense.

i think it was a question of style. the 1392 looked a bit more modern than the 1292. maybe the companies that sold these systems demanded a more "stylish" design.

also every system seems to exist in 2 colors a grey or black 1292 and a black and alsmost white 1392.

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Dieter
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27 Nov. 2008 - 14:36

Quote from Dale Hansen's FAQ:

This group of consoles is believed to have started with the Interton VC-4000 (produced as early as 1974,but sold in 1978)

I can hardly believe that the VC-4000 has already been produced in 1974???

Somehow I have the feeling that all his dates are 3 - 4 years too low Laughing

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pongman
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27 Nov. 2008 - 14:41

haha one year before the first pongs were produced by interton in germany - never!

that´s also one year earlier before atari brought out their first home pongs (atari c-100)

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Dieter
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27 Nov. 2008 - 14:52

And would have been just 2 years after the original Odyssey, hard to believe ...

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27 Nov. 2008 - 15:02

Dieter said:

Quote from Dale Hansen's FAQ:

This group of consoles is believed to have started with the Interton VC-4000 (produced as early as 1974,but sold in 1978)

I can hardly believe that the VC-4000 has already been produced in 1974???

Somehow I have the feeling that all his dates are 3 - 4 years too low Laughing


Don't know when they started to develop it, but it was presented to the public 1977 at the IFA in Berlin and in the shops in 1978.

And yes, the dates are a bit strange. Interton was in the videogame business since 1974 so maybe he mixed something up?

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2 Dez. 2008 - 03:56

Well, IIRC the Signetics 2650 CPU was released in 1975, so releasing a console based on this chip in 1974 would not have been possible.

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Dieter
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2 Dez. 2008 - 07:07

That's a good point Amigan, and affirms our thoughts.

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