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Undumped Arcadia games
2 Dec 2008
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Which are the undumped Arcadia games? Who has them and who is able to dump them?

I think Super Bug (mpt-03) and 3d Attack (Home Arcade) are still undumped. I do have them both. Are there any other games which need to be dumped?

7 Dec 2008
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Wow, I was almost certain that 3D Attack didn't exist :-) It would be great if these two were dumped. Also no good dump of Mobile Soldier Gundam has been released.

There are lots of Interton-family carts needing dumping but these are the only Emerson-family (ie. 2637-based) ones I know of. Of course there are a few rumoured ones (3D Raceway, Centipede, Fun with Math, Galaga, Home Squadron, Pinball, Ski, Water Games) some of which were listed as coming soon in various catalogues but probably were never released.

As for who could dump them, there are several people, for example Ward Shrake in USA or Peter Trauner in Austria, who have made good dumps for these systems in the past.

By the way I don't have regular net access at the moment so please don't expect quick replies from me :-(

7 Dec 2008
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What are the surces of the unreleased games? Especially "3d Raceway" and "Home Squadron"? I think "Centipede" and "Galaga" came from some early magazine article?

Theses are the games I have in my rumor-list (with surces):

Fun With Maths (Rowtron catalog / Ormatu catalog /Tempest catalog)
Grand Prix 3D (Hanimex catalog)
Locomotive (Rowtron catalog)
Pinball (Rowtron catalog / Ormatu catalog)
Ski (Robdajet catalog)
Water Games (Robdajet catalog)

"Grand Prix 3d" is probably just another name for "3d Raceway". "Locomotive" is missing in your list.

12 Dec 2008
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>I think “Centipede” and “Galaga” came from some early magazine article?

Yes, IIRC.

>"3d Raceway” and "Home Squadron”?

Probably they were mentioned on some website, maybe we should remove them from the list.

I wasn't aware of Locomotive (I don't think I have seen the Rowtron catalog), but I will add it to the list.

Any chance of screenshots/scans for 3D Attack? I'm very curious about it...

12 Dec 2008
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I wouldn't remove them from the list. I think they belong there as there have been rumors about them. I found this list which is probably the source and also contains “Galaxian”.

While looking at some catalogs I've noticed for the first time that in one of the mpt-03 catalogs I have the following games are listed:

mg-317: Berzerk

mg-322: Phoenix

mg-323: Defender

The screenshots show the real Arcadia games Robot Killer, Space Vultures, Space Squadron.

Here is a scan of the Rowtron catalog listing Locomotive:

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I'll make scans and screenshots from 3d Attack asap.

16 Dec 2008
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>mg-317: Berzerk

>mg-322: Phoenix

>mg-323: Defender

They are lucky their competitors' lawyers did not see that catalog :-)

>I'll make scans and screenshots from 3d Attack asap.

Great, thanks.

16 Dec 2008
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Amigan said:

They are lucky their competitors' lawyers did not see that catalog :-)


That's what I thought too mrgreen

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19 Dec 2008
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Here is the first bunch of screenshots from 3d attack. As you can see its a Zaxxon type of game. I'll try to make better pics and write a small review later on.

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19 Dec 2008
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Wow!! That's pretty impressive! Surprised

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20 Dec 2008
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I've played 3d Attack for a while yesterday evening and here are some more impressions:

First of all, I don't like games in an isometric perspective and I'm not good in playing them. 3d Attack shares the big problem I have with most of them; I can't see how the perspective is meant and I have to try it again and again, not to see it, but to know it.

Object of the game is to complete stages and shoot down enemies. 3d Attack has a title screen and 5 stages, after the 5th stage you start at the first stage again, but this time with increased difficulty.

There are two special features in this game. First you can pause it by pressing a special button on the keypad, second is that you can select the stage which you want to play and also leave it. I think a stage select option is a very unusual feature for 1983!

21 Dec 2008
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Wow, that game seems rather cool!!

The hardware of the Arcadia makes isometric games rather difficult to do, so this sounds like it is one of the more technically advanced games (like Hobo).

Quite a few 1-player Arcadia games have a pause feature. Generally any key in the left column of the “unused” controller will pause the game and the any key in the right column of the “unused” controller will unpause it.

24 Dec 2008
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Amigan said:

Quite a few 1-player Arcadia games have a pause feature. Generally any key in the left column of the “unused” controller will pause the game and the any key in the right column of the “unused” controller will unpause it.


Interesting! I've never noticed that. By the way, the pause function of 3d attack is on the "used" controller.

Do any games beside 3d attack and Jump Bug have a level select function?

26 Dec 2008
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Depends what you mean by "level select"; most of them have selectable difficulty and options. Eg. Nibblemen, Auto Race have different mazes/tracks which you can select. But in the narrowest sense of the term, I can't think of any except that I seem to recall that it's possible to start from level 2 in Space Vultures.

11 Jan 2009
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Sorry, I ment a stage select.

I need to check Space Vultures. Do you remember how to start from level 2?

16 Jan 2009
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Maybe you use one of the buttons on the console unit, I will check.

2 Jun 2009
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I'm proud to announce that Super Bug and Gundam have now been dumped and released today.

Thanks to Paul Thacker and Ward Shrake.

Get them from http://amigan.classicgaming.gamespy.com/

Now only 3D Attack needs dumping...

4 Jun 2009
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Great news amigan, thanks! Thumbup

Glad to hear that Ward is still around, I had many conversations with him when we were working on the latest print issue of the Digital Press Guide smile

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10 Jul 2009
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Amigan said:

I'm proud to announce that Super Bug and Gundam have now been dumped and released today.

Thanks to Paul Thacker and Ward Shrake.

Get them from http://amigan.classicgaming.gamespy.com/

Now only 3D Attack needs dumping…


That are really good news! Thanks also to James Jacobs from Amigan Software. Smile

Yes, 3D Attack needs dumping. I'll contact you via E-Mail about that as soon as I have some more time.

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