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Different PAL versions
5 Aug 2008
21:50
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PAL Colecovision games exist in different country versions. So far I saw:

Carts with German label
Carts with French label
Carts with English (U.K.) label
Carts with English label (with multilingual manual and box)
Carts with multilingual label (with multilingual manual and box)

Pretty confusing. So France and Germany (and probably the United Kingdom) had own versions – did those come with French and German manuals and boxes or with multilingual manuals and boxes? I have a Donkey Kong with German label, but with multilingual manual and box, but I am not sure if it came in that combination originally.

And were the carts with English label in multilingual boxes also sold in France and Germany? If yes, was that before or after the France-only and German-only versions?

Oh, and are there also PAL carts with Spanish and Italian labels out there??

Same goes for the console itself. I know of PAL consoles with English, German and French front plates.

And for the records: Today I got a boxed console with some boxed games from Belgium. Both the console and the games came with English front plate respectively labels, all in multilingual boxes with multilngual manuals.

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9 Aug 2008
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After some more research I am pretty sure now that the Colecovision console with the German front plate came in a German box. The same goes probably for the console with the French front plate.

Same for the games: The carts with German label came most probably in a German box, not in a multilingual. And they had probably German manuals only.

I am still unsure if the single-language consoles and games were released before the multilingual ones (which I presume) or if both versions were sold at the same time, the multilingual being sold in countries that didn't have a single-language version. But as the second option would not make much sense, I think that there were first the single-language versions, and later they switched to the multilingual version to save on costs.

Still any input welcome here <img class=" />

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8 Sep 2008
20:04
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Ok, recently I bought some German Colecovision games via ebay. The seller told me that he bought those games right after the release of the system in Germany. So I would say it is 99 % sure now that with the release of the system in Europe, CBS sold different language versions for different countries. Later, probably to save costs, they re-released hardware and software as ONE multilingual version all over Europe.

Some later games exist ONLY in multilingual versions. That is another fact that would prove that theory.

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4 Oct 2008
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Adding my PAL games here for a start. All have CBS printed on box/cartridge and some have CBS and COLECOVISION printed on box/cartridge. If you need more detail about language variants, say so.

"Antarctic Adventure";"Colecovision";"1984";"";"CBS"
"Buck Rogers: Planet Of Doom";"Colecovision";"1984";"";"CBS"
"Bump 'N' Jump";"Colecovision";"1984";"";"CBS"
"Burger Time";"Colecovision";"1984";"";"CBS"
"Cabbage Patch Kids: Adventures In The Park";"Colecovision";"1984";"";"CBS"
"Carnival";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Cosmic Avenger";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Cosmic Avenger";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Donkey Kong";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Donkey Kong Junior";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Front Line";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Gateway To Apshai";"Colecovision";"1984";"";"CBS"
"Gorf";"Colecovision";"1982";"";"CBS"
"Gorf";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Jumpman Junior";"Colecovision";"1984";"";"CBS"
"Lady Bug";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Looping";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Mouse Trap";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Mr. Do!";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Omega Race";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Pepper II";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Pitstop";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Rocky Super Action Boxing";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Smurf";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Space Fury";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Space Panic";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Time Pilot";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Turbo";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Venture";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"Victory";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"
"War Games";"Colecovision";"1984";"";"CBS"
"Zaxxon";"Colecovision";"1983";"";"CBS"

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4 Oct 2008
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Would be great if you could add which of those games are multilingual and which are single language (German etc.) <img class=" />

Edit: The paper stuff of course, not the games themselves Wink

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14 Dec 2008
21:05
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Ok, so lets add some photos here. We're talking about PAL variations.

I think the first variation here was the first that was released in Europe, with the European launch of the system. Here for example the German version. Those single-language boxes also exist in French and English. If you know of other languages, please let me know. The multi-language versions (see second picture) contain five languages (English, French, German, Spanish and Italian), so the single-language versions probably do also exist in those five languages.

To my knowledge, some months after the launch of the system in Europe, CBS changed the boxes from single-language to multi-language, probably for cost reasons. This is the box for the same game, but the second release, with box text and manual in five languages. I think that all the games that exist in this five-language version, do also exist in single-language versions, which were prior to them.

Later European releases were ONLY released in multi-language format. Box text and manual in four languages (English, French, German and Italian – Spanish was dropped), with black background for title at the top and the info at the bottom of the box cover. I think that there are NO single-language versions of those games.

I also found a Subroc with only three languages (English, French, German).

This is to my best knowledge. If you have other or more info, please let us know.

I have also a Roc'n Rope that was sold in Belgium (price sticker on box), but it is the US version. So either this is a grey import or it is a very late release and they just took the US version for Europe too, to save even more on costs. Any help appreciated here.

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15 Dec 2008
11:58
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Well, I'm not convinced that your sort order is correct, Dieter. Were Multi-Silver really released before Multi-Black? I dunno.

Roc'n Rope for the Atari 2600 was a damn late CBS release, so I think it was also a later Coleco release, which would confirm your grey import theory to some point.

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15 Dec 2008
12:03
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Well, I am 99 % sure that the grey-multis were earlier than the black-multis. All the early games like Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr, Zaxxon, etc. exist only in grey-multi (and in single-language of course).

And I haven't found any single-language games from the black-multis so far. This is an indicator that those were late releases and CBS didn't care for single-language releases anymore.

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15 Dec 2008
14:34
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ok, that's scientific fact then.

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15 Dec 2008
18:48
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You`ll find the answer on the back of the two different box types.

Grey-Multi:

Black-Multi:

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15 Dec 2008
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Great! Another video game archeology question answered! smile

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23 Mar 2009
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Hmm, I got a WarGames today that puzzles me a bit. Box and cartridge have 4 languages on them (English, French, German, Italian), but the manual has 5 languages (adding Dutch). I don't know if it was sold that way or if the seller added a 5 language manual to the 4 language box + cart.

Funny anyway, because so far I didn't know of any games that were released in 4 language version as well as 5 language version.

So there is another mystery … Rolleyes

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23 Mar 2009
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I think, it is nothing special, Dieter, as my 4 languages boxes and carts have all 5 languages instructions (added dutch language). I guess they were all sold this way officially.

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23 Mar 2009
22:55
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Many thanks for the info Norman. I'll check my four language versions too.

Still it's funny why they did it this way (Dutch only in the manual, but not on the box or cart). Maybe it has something to do that they were "printed in Holland"?

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