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18:21
28 Mai 2008
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If you have corrections or questions regarding our Intellivision NTSC And PAL Games List please post here.
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20:26
15 Jun 2008
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Hello,Dieter!
Some corrections on your Intellivision list:
As far as I know the IntelliVoice games were released in Europe too.They had instructions in english only,but some stores made translations for them (I have a typewriter written german instruction of "Space Spartans" that was bought at Quelle Kaufhaus).Just B-17 Bomber wasn´t released in Germany due to the military WWII topic.
I am also not sure about the last Imagic titles "Truckin´" and "Fathom" as I have never seen any international edition box of them ever.
Activision just had "Pitfall","Stampede" and "Happy Trails" on the german market officially (each with Ariola sticker on box)."The Dreadnaught Factor" actually doesn´t work on a PAL Intellivision system, just on a NTSC Intellivision II.
These are my little additions to your list,Dieter.
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Norman
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22:28
28 Mai 2008
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Many thanks for your input Norman! I will edit the list right now.
Did you ever see the IntelliVoice interface in German stores too? Maybe some of them were imported from the United States and typewritten manuals have been added by the stores?
The IntelliVoice games show us a problem with our list: Do we count them as “official” PAL releases (by Mattel) or are those just grey imports? I think if they were “real” PAL releases, they would have some sort of multilingual or German manuals, at least additionally to the US manuals. And those additional manuals would probably have some kind of Mattel logo or copyright notice on them.
Maybe we should only count games with international boxes/manuals as PAL releases.
I think for the first I will count the IntelliVoice games as PAL releases, but with a footnote.
We are still in the beta phase of this new site - I am sure we will have more input as soon as the site goes “officially” online, which I am planning for 1st September.
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18:25
17 Aug 2008
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Dieter said:
The IntelliVoice games show us a problem with our list: Do we count them as “official” PAL releases (by Mattel) or are those just grey imports? I think if they were “real” PAL releases, they would have some sort of multilingual or German manuals, at least additionally to the US manuals. And those additional manuals would probably have some kind of Mattel logo or copyright notice on them.
So Quelle not only officially sold pirated Taiwan games for the Atari, they also grey-imported games for the Intellivision? Cool, they surely had eggs 
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18:53
17 Aug 2008
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Hmm, you list the CBS Coleco releases but not their NTSC counterparts 
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19:22
28 Mai 2008
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Explain that. I am a bit slow on the uptake today.
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19:26
17 Aug 2008
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You list both Pac-Man releases (Atarisoft and the unlicensed re-release) so you must also list the later Intellivision releases where the official license logos were deleted to save money and all Coleco games were released as CBS releases AND Coleco releases
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19:36
28 Mai 2008
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Ok, let me think about that.
Well Pac-Man was released by two different companies, that makes a reason for me to list them both, somehow.
The thingie with the Intellivision sports games is just a "label variation", so I think it doesn't make sense to list them twice. Same basically with the CBS/Coleco games.
But we should think about that how we will handle it in the online database.
Any other thoughts out there?
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19:44
17 Aug 2008
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The artwork of the CBS and COLECO boxes is totally different so they have to be listed.
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20:01
28 Mai 2008
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True, but aren't the Coleco games the NTSC ones and the CBS games the PAL ones? So we'd have to list all Coleco/CBS games twice for Intellivision and Colecovision and probably also Atari 2600.
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20:06
17 Aug 2008
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Hmm, the games itself are all NTSC, be it Pac-Man or the Coleco releases. Also the CBS (PAL) releases are NTSC games so to speak. CBS (CBS Records) and Coleco also are two different companies.
You also should list them for the ColecoVision as it is also just a NTSC system but you don't have to list it for the 2600 as there true NTSC and PAL systems and games exist.
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20:12
28 Mai 2008
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For now, I have listed all games as “Coleco/CBS”. I think this is clearer in the layout than listing all titles twice?
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20:15
17 Aug 2008
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Nope, a collector needs to tick off games he has, for example. 
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20:22
28 Mai 2008
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A European collector collects the CBS releases, a US collector collects the Coleco releases. Why should anyone collect both? Do you know someone? 
We'll include that in the online list then.
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20:26
15 Jun 2008
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Dieter said: Why should anyone collect both? Do you know anyone?
Perhaps I am the only one...
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20:32
17 Aug 2008
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Don't forget that I come a long way in working with BuckyB on the PlayStation database - that forms character and discipline
On the contrary I think you should do it the way you like as we're both right, but in a collector's list all releases should be listed on their own to give collectors the full repertoire.
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20:39
17 Aug 2008
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Hmm, Dieter - you don't list a Pac-Man (Atarisoft) PAL release (was there none?) and you don't list the Mattel unlicensed re-release as either PAL and/or NTSC. So I'm puzzled now.
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20:40
28 Mai 2008
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I am with you AtariBuff, and we will definitely include all those variations in the online database.
And yes, I could even read BuckyB's handwriting in your last posts here
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10:24
30 Apr 2009
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The typewriter written instructions came directly from Mattel Electronics Germany.
I once had contact with the guy who transleted them (but I lost track of him).
As far as I know the following games had this typewriter instructions:
Treasures of Tarmin
Buzz Bombers
Intellivoice Games
Space Spartans
Bomb Squad
ECS Games
Melody Blaster
Mr Basic meets Bits n Bytes
Scooby Doos Maze Chase
Mind Strike
If anyone knows of other games with this special instructions I really like to know!
The IntelliVoice was sold in Germany with English instructions (I own a box with german DM price sticker).
And the only 2 games that didn´t run on a PAL Inty are Dreadnought Factor and Motocross because of timing problems during switching the memory chips (60Hz/50Hz).
Mattel correctet the problem with Motocross. But this version was first released by INTV. If you want toplay Motocross on a PAL Inty just get a Motocross cart with white label. 
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